Post by Tazmanian DevilThe Stock market is in the same position
as it was when Clinton was in office.
Spaz proves he's an idiot again! So you think that the stock market being
stagnant for 3 and a half years under Bush is a good thing? HAH! You are
really starting to sweat now!
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Some of the lies told and outrageous claims
made by: "Tazmanian Devil" <***@biteme.com>
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1) Claimed to graduate from Ohio State in 1985 with a JD and started a
law firm. Law firm's web site lists only one founding partner who
graduated before 1985 from a different school. Law firm's web site lists
no partner who graduated from OSU in 1985.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=odu29u4pkg9fksu3u8rvgg3apqfgiqhjpq%404ax.com
http://www.gallonlaw.com/partnersmain.htm
2) Posted a version of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution with
wording that doesn't exist in the amendment.
3) Claimed that ice is made up of 90% air.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=vk0bmuc41ccn61c79jif4ceaqgp5tsnaph%404ax.com
4) Claimed that Washington State had an election in August of 2002 in
which the incumbent Democratic governor lost to a Republican challenger.
There was no such election. Not to mention that general elections are
always held on the first Tuesday in November.
5) Claimed that there was no such thing as the Texas Code of Military
Justice. Was proven wrong by several posters.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Y%25d49.32026%24eH2.15571692%40ruti.visi.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=j4aqkuc8uu3um0o6kts357m9bkovj0e9uh%404ax.com
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/go/go0043200toc.html
6) Claimed that Clinton is receiving $400,000 a year pension. Clinton's
salary was $200,000. It was not raised to $400,000 until Bush took
office. Clinton is getting approx. $150,000 a year pension.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4n8bluohr8e78pvo3tvb36kd0ckqe67mdv%404ax.com
7) Claimed that Clinton threatened to veto any defense appropriations
bill that included concurrent receipt for military retirees. Clinton
supported concurrent receipts. Bush is against it.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4n8bluohr8e78pvo3tvb36kd0ckqe67mdv%404ax.com
8) Claimed that Clinton was offered bin Laden four times. There is only
one documented instance of bin Laden being offered to the U.S., but with
unacceptable strings attached. Spaz has never backed up his claim with
proof.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=lod5lucjcru16g7cio3ee08n9pt47p0gda%404ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=h7giluoch9eahh8khlk85i3vk3a911r9t9%404ax.com
9) Claimed that it was illegal for Hillary Clinton to run for Congress
because she was a member of Bill Clinton's administration. He never did
say what position in Bill's administration she held.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=03l2lus85e8t5gql7kv94rvu1mua80n47i%404ax.com
10) Claimed Bill Clinton was the only President to have been impeached.
Didn't understand that being impeached is the accusation that leads to a
trial.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6eolkuc95ipc3vq4te7gq67b3dskc80cda%404ax.com
11) On 8/23/02 claimed that a Zogby poll had Bush's re-election number
at 69%. The 8/22/02 Zogby poll has Bush's re-election number at 41%.
12) Claimed that CO2 emissions are going down by referring to an IPCC
study. The study actually shows that emissions are going up.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=la1qmu82dpqckdiimv2v7dkggbtn67kqds%404ax.com
http://www.unep.ch/ipcc/pub/spm22-01.pdf
13) Claimed that four women died from taking RU-486. Two women died,
and it was from complications from taking RU-486 AND misoprostol at the
same time. In the same post he claimed that there was an obstetrician
group called AAPLO. A Google search for the group comes up blank.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D6ECDC1.5000102%40tampabay.rr.com
14) Claimed that California Hispanics endorsed Simon. No Hispanic group
has come out to support Simon at the time he made the claim. A poll at
the time showed that Hispanic voters preferred Davis 80% to 20% over
Simon.
15) Claimed that Gore had a bodyguard while in Vietnam. Was proven
wrong by posters citing direct quotes from the person Spaz claimed was
the bodyguard.
16) Claimed Gore didn't win the popular vote in the 2000 election. Gore
won the popular vote by more than 538,000 votes.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=hrel3vgbu242fnbtf3t3b3qilppk9c8t68%404ax.com
17) Claimed there was no gaps in Bush's National Guard records that
showed Bush went AWOL. Was proven wrong by many posters.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=IoCcndiTWuqGIR2iU-KYvw%40wideopenwest.com
18) Claimed Gore was never closer than 100 miles from the front in
Vietnam. Ignoring the fact that there was no front in 'Nam, Gore was at
Khe Sanh which was 15 miles away from the DMZ.
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19) Claimed Gore's commanding officer said that Gore was never closer
than 100 miles from the front in 'Nam. See #18. Naturally, spaz never
provided a cite.
20) Claimed that Janet Reno appointed Starr to the Whitewater
investigation. Starr was appointed by a panel of federal judges to
replace Fiske.
21) Claimed that ABC-CBS-NBC all reported that Starr was appointed to
the Whitewater investigation by Reno. (See #20). He never provided proof
of his statement (starting to see a pattern?).
22) Claimed that a person receives a "copywrite" (his spelling, and
remember he's a lawyer) for an invention. Any high school student can
tell you that you receive a patent for an invention.
23) Claimed that a person receives a "copywrite" (his spelling, and
remember he's a lawyer) for an invention and that the "copywrite" lasts
for 200 years. Can you pick out the three mistakes in this one? No fair
looking at #22.
24) Claimed that there were no Palestinians before 1942.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=bnp6mvs3s574i971nfslh8mh4hjhv6in34%404ax.com
25) Claimed that California did not count all the votes from the 2000
presidential election. The state's web site, with a statement from
Republican Bill Jones, proves him wrong. http://vote2000.ss.ca.gov/
26) Claimed that the GAO report, GAO-02-122, was not on-line. Was
proven wrong by fâhç. Spaz later cited the report in another thread.
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=ufgiou0ho5vbvblknmc2d396714kal0d85%404ax.com
27) Claimed to have spoken to Prodigy's Houston headquarters on
Saturday, September 22nd. Prodigy's headquarters are closed on
Saturdays. In a Sunday post, spaz said that he was GOING to call on
Monday.
http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=4fcsqu4dsi4eqa5bc229dnrknvjksv1c96%404ax.com
28) Claimed that Carnahan was trailing badly in the polls in Missouri.
All the polls had her neck and neck with her opponent.
29) Claimed that the NJ Supreme Court would rule against Torricelli by
a 3-2 or 4-1 decision. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of Torricelli by
a unanimous decision.
30) Claimed that Lautenberg would not be allowed on the NJ ballot,
after gaining approval by the state supreme court, until the decision
was affirmed by a federal court. You would think that a "lawyer" would
know that Lautenberg is on the ballot until a federal court rules that
he can't be on the ballot.
31) On October 8, 2002, spaz repeated the lie about Ken Lay sleeping in
the WH during Clinton's administration. Makes you wonder if spaz is
capable of learning.
32) Claimed that a story in Salon about Thomas White and Enron was
pulled because it was a lie. The story was pulled because it
plagiarized.
33) On October 10, 2002, spaz claimed that the 3rd US District Court
was going to reverse the New Jersey SC decision. There was no cite, and
a thorough search of news sources found no reference. Update May 25,
2003: Still no cite and a search of the court docket lists no case.
34) Claimed that SCOTUS decisions could be overrode by Congress. The
laws can be changed to be legal, but decisions cannot be overridden.
35) Claimed there was no link between Thomas White and Enron. White was
an Enron executive for 11 years.
36) Claimed that DNA can withstand temperatures up to 1500 degrees
without breaking down. Lead melts at 900 degrees and he wants us to
believe DNA is more resilient than lead?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=l92qqu4rd14csle5u4em1cudctt081nqh8%404ax.com
37) Claimed that it is illegal to have mandatory gun registration.
Oops, California has such a program.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=p7s7vugii5p5k9j30uqcml3vekvq9ltksp%404ax.com
38) Claimed that the California Teachers Association endorsed Simon for
governor. Oops, they endorsed Davis:
http://www.cta.org/press/press_releases/council_endorses_contact.html
39) Claimed that he could obtain both biological weapons and nuclear
material to make a bomb by filing an application and paying an import
fee.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=XWZs9.28340%24jF2.18253%40news1.central.cox.net
40) Claimed that the Bible proves that the Jews were not an occupying
force in the Palestinian lands. The Bible states that the Jews were a
nomadic group who never had a legitimate claim to any land.
41) Posted the web site http://www.batf.gov as a cite. There is no web
site called batf.gov. BATF is under the usdoj.gov web site.
42) Claimed that when Grey Davis was first elected, well, here it is in
his own words: "there was almost a 12 TRILLION DOLLAR valid surplus
according to the California State Department of the Treasury". Steveo
promptly demonstrated what a liar spaz is.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=v4rvevk9ke8cakil5s3ogio5g044rahv31%404ax.com
43) Claimed that a Democrat started the Davis recall in California. The
recall was started by Ted Costa, a Republican.
44) Claimed that California had been in Democrat hands since 1963. The
California Assembly, and governorship, was in Republican hands from 1992
(I believe) to 1998. It was during this time, specifically in 1996, that
the energy deregulation plan was passed by the Republican Assembly and
signed into law by Pete Wilson, a Republican.
45) Claimed that government classes in all US schools teach that
Article V of the Constitution requires three fourths of the House
and Senate to send a Consitutional Amendment to the states for
approval. Only two thirds are required.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=njd0tugdl1vp40rgjl610hi400ugptgbnb%404ax.com
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlev.html
46) Claimed that it was unconstitutional for Diane Feinstein to run for
governor while she was still in the Senate. Maybe Spaz meant that it was
illegal for a Democrat to do it since several Republicans (Pete Wilson &
Frank Murkowski to name two) have done it.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01tvev0rp72joues93n6vhm03d1dpd9j16%404ax.com
47) Claimed on July 15, 2003 that Ohio was running a budget surplus. It
was running a $1.2 billion deficit.
http://groups.google.com/groups?&selm=cab7hv0v0cdb17433d9t663ruqta5en5cg%404ax.com
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/06/12/loc_ohbudget12.html
48) Claimed that Bush increased VA budget by $3 billion, when actually
it was a $6.2 billion reduction. Claimed VA web site proved his statements.
Steveo gave the link that proved him wrong.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cpcgivgp7qsnv9de1jqkqse9gajeqqki4q%404ax.com
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Veterans_up_in_arms_042403.htm
49) Claimed the first computer was invented by the US military in the
1950's.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=0vhb3vkd458jbcnvab279c28ckpnij8h4t%404ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pnlfrv4ikciho25d5bn8j4sgcnj8d3aseo%404ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E35A5F3.6000007%40nospam.com
50) Claimed Howard Dean committed fraud to get out of military service. Was
proven to be a liar.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3fd4aa9a%240%2460269%24a32e20b9%40news.nntpservers.com
51) Claimed there is a commission called the UN Commission on Climate
Control and Global Warming. The commission doesn't exist.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6paptvc6t38nn90mvo6mk251q9q3r1istq%404ax.com
52) Claimed that Simon & Schuster was laying off 4,000 workers. S&S
announced job cuts of 75 people. BTW, S&S only have 1,600 total
workers.
53) Posted quotes from famous people and changed the quotes to disparage
Democrats. Kenneth- provided the unedited quotes which proved spaz
lied, once again.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=h368ov4oantl8gsth45oldefnvqsq77jai%404ax.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=oX2hb.16042%24Ri4.5392070%40news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net
54) Claimed Dr. Sallie Baliunas of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for
Astrophysics is one of the top three Climatologists in the world. Dr.
Baljunas is an Astrophysicist.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6paptvc6t38nn90mvo6mk251q9q3r1istq%404ax.com
55) Claimed military personnel have to pledge an oath that they are not
gay. It's obvious spaz has never served in the military.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e9eptvkoe7t5so31f0jlulo8bis0e7dj6t%404ax.com
56) Claimed AOL censored Newsmax.com. They don't. I tested this.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dds8vv4hfn2hbktvhnqee261sqn6hjcrv7%404ax.com
57) Claimed Cheney's energy committee meetings included environmental
groups. It is well documented there were no environmental groups
invited.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=92j80052uq71u51a25i9s8n4986ae98lmk%404ax.com
58) Claimed Howard Dean's energy committee meetings did not include any
environmental groups (see cite in 55). A two second Google search proved
him a liar.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/28/elec04.prez.dean.energy.ap/
59) Claimed Dick Gephardt was under investigation for missing votes in
the Senate and that he would have to repay part of his salary.
This fantastical statement needs no further comment.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cmeo00978l6voa1ip6jproahfvmdoa20j0%404ax.com
60) Claimed Clinton was responsible for Canada's HIV tainted blood
scandal. That would be a little difficult since the scandal occurred in
the 1980's.
http://www.aegis.com/news/re/1996/RE9604F3.html
61) Claimed recess appointments to the bench was illegal. You'd think a
"lawyer" would know the Constitution specifically allows for them.
"The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen
during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall
expire at the end of their next Session" (II, 2, 3).
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7j0d105jcs001tlres3gn01nb47b5cogt9%404ax.com
62) Claimed Clinton appointed John "Yee" (should be Lee, but Asians all
look the same to spaz) to the bench during a Congressional recess, and
"Yee" was on the bench for 4 years because Clinton used force to keep
him on. This would be a little difficult since "Yee" was appointed in
1998, and Clinton left office in 2001. Spaz never did explain why the
Republican controlled Congress didn't reverse the appointment in January
1999 when they reconvened.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7j0d105jcs001tlres3gn01nb47b5cogt9%404ax.com
63) Claimed that Edwards won the popular vote over Kerry in Wisconsin.
Kerry
had 40 percent, Edwards had 34 percent, Dean 18 percent, Rep. Dennis
Kucinich
of Ohio 3 percent and Al Sharpton 2 percent.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=***@4ax.com
64) Claimed Terry "McAuliff" (should be "McAuliffe" but Spaz can't get
anything right) was chairman of the DNC during the time period when
Democrats
lost control of both houses of Congress. McAuliffe wasn't elected as
chairman
the DNC until February 2001, which was *after* Republicans had a majority of
seats in Congress.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=***@4ax.com
http://www.democrats.org/about/bios/mcauliffe.html
65) Claimed police could issue warrants, and didn't need a judge to do
so. You'd think a "lawyer" would know better.
66) Claimed that the Gov Roy Barnes *illegally* changed the Georgia
State flag.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=4jk5uu8dmjt7hou5pue2h4slfjmvpin9vt%404ax.com
67) Claimed that "syr.edu" in a usenet message header's *path* means
that the author posted from there.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=qvss5vg8iq1h84mo6205q4ihrjk1vvtv7n%404ax.com
68) Claimed that the 2001 version of the Georgia State flag was not
recognized by the Library of Congress.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9p95uusav4lqlt696pkhicp2odbvnrmhba%404ax.com
69) Claimed Clinton wasn't impeached for lying. The articles of
impeachment specifically state Clinton was being impeached for lying in
the Paula Jones case.
70) Claimed Clinton was being impeached for reasons of "national
security". Huh? See # 68.
71) Claimed Clinton and Gore requested their testimony in the 9/11
intelligence investigation be sealed. There was no such request made.
72) Claimed Bush has not impeded the 9/11 intelligence investigation.
It took several weeks of negotiations just to get Bush to testify for
ONE hour.
73) Claimed there was no record of Kerry being treated for his injuries
in which he was awarded Purple Hearts for.
He was immediately proven to be lying.
74) Claimed Squeeky Frome was sentenced to life imprisonment for issuing
death threats against president Ford. She was sentenced to life for
attempted assassination when she pulled a gun on Ford.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2p2q90h0jcq9j7to00044ljmc3r2ckm4i1%404ax.com
75) Claimed Merle Haggard had never wavered in his support for Bush. A
simple Google search proved Spaz was lying.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=r74q90han2nsbd6bmk0d2p0ne0btug87mf%404ax.com
76) Claimed on 5/8/2004 that Zogby showed Bush leading Kerry by 9 points.
The most recent published Zogby poll at that time showed Kerry leading Bush,
or tied with him if Nader was included.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=tv4q909eqcsfvmn5e9i2m7u302tbh9ppgk%404ax.com
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=821
77) Caught red-handed forging a post and replying to it
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=NAanc.32896%***@fed1read05
